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From the BassMaster website...

KVD on Green Bay DNR ruling

Man, these Wisconsin fans are something else.

Thursday was the first day of competition at the Mississippi River Rumble in La Crosse, yet the people turned out in droves.

I was blown away by the number of spectator boats on the water and how many people were floating around carrying KVD signs.

Of course, the fact I’m from Michigan helps my popularity here in the North, but you can tell these fans are glad to have all of us here.

Thursday’s weigh-in produced one of the largest crowds I’ve seen for the first day of a tournament. You can tell these folks in the North are hungry for a major tournament.

The fishery is pretty darn good, too. It’s fertile and full of smallmouth and largemouth. Nearly everyone is catching a lot of fish. Unfortunately, we’re fishing during a postspawn period so getting the big fish isn’t easy, but the system is loaded with 2- to 3-pounders.

Next week we are at Green Bay, a venue I expected to produce one of the best weigh-ins B.A.S.S. has ever held on a northern fishery.

Sadly – and not just for our sake but also for tourism and the people who live in that area – local biologists decided to reduce our fishing waters which will prevent us from showcasing that region as one of the country’s best smallmouth fisheries.

After the site was announced, biologists tightened the amount of water we can fish, leaving us to fish less productive waters. That caught B.A.S.S. officials off guard and will no doubt prevent us from helping to give that fishery the reputation it deserves. It also cost that area thousands of dollars in lost tourism revenue since we won’t be able to show the fishery’s capabilities like we have at Falcon, Amistad, Kentucky and Pickwick lakes.

There will be fish caught in that event, but we will be confined to an area where the habitat is not as good as what lies outside the DNR’s boundaries.

State officials say they are concerned that the smallmouth we might catch in the lower bay are different than the ones we could catch in the upper bay and don’t want them moved around. We all know that’s a non-issue because smallmouth bass are notorious for traveling great distances. Any fisherman knows that.

They said they also are concerned we would kill fish carrying them a longer distance in our livewells. They obviously haven’t done their homework or they’d realize that B.A.S.S. has the lowest mortality record of any other tournament organization and that our guys’ boats are equipped with the best livewell systems to take care of the fish.

We KNOW how catch and release benefits a fishery; and while we never want to kill a bass, we legally could take our five fish a day and fillet them.

Of course, we wouldn’t do that.

The last-minute decision to limit us makes me think that biologists don’t know what our events are truly about, or they simply have a grudge with bass fishing tournaments.

It’s especially disheartening for me. As a Northerner, I know how great the fishing is in this part of the country and how badly Northern anglers want to see more B.A.S.S. events on their waters. The short seasons in the North make it tough enough, yet nonsensical decisions like we have encountered in Green Bay make it even tougher.

Remember, it’s all about the attitude!



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If the biologists think it might or even have a slight chance of hurting a certain area fishery. Then they are making a good choice. Why chance it. If B.a.s.s wanted to be fishing in the area that is restricted then they should have held the event closer to that area. Lets not forget that over the next week we are looking at record highs. This year the weather is a lot different then normal. Best to be safe then sorry.


Do boundary limits suck yes. But its same for every fisherman in the tournament. So buck up and fish harder in the allow area. Why is the D.N.R always the bad guy when they are just trying to avoid hurting the fishery. Funny people think the D.N.R guys just get together and say "hey how can we screw these guys over."


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I disagree Dale. I think it's pretty rediculous. And rest assured, I'm not a big tournament fan (you can ask Kenneth). If there is a species that doesn't even get touched compared to what the population is, it is smallmouth bass. I had guests catch almost 150 bass on Big Bay last summer in one day just fishing from Garden Bay north along the shoreline up to in front of Tylenes. I think you will agree that the timing of the Wisconsin DNR's announcment of boundries is pretty pathetic and a slap in the face of all those involved with the tournament (see below). I love a good civilized debate and would love to hear some other opinions!!!

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From the BASS Master website....

 Crammed in a box at Green Bay

By Jerry McKinnis

Jun 26, 2012

Oh my, am I going to get in trouble for what I will say today.

Before I say it though, let me make a few points.

Here at B.A.S.S. we always like to claim ourselves the biggest and baddest when it comes to bass fishing information and education. And we are.

 

Along with that, I think we have a responsibility alongside of all state agencies to oversee the waters that all bass anglers use, and I think we do a pretty good job there as well. Our Conservation Director Noreen Clough is an absolute gift from heaven, and she leads an incredible group of Federation Nation directors. I’ll bet very few of you bass fishermen out there know about these people, but believe me, they’ve got your back.

 

I also want to point out that all of our Elite anglers are not only real bass pros when it comes to finding and catching bass, but they are tops in the areas of teaching and conservation as well. You know what else? They’re very accessible to the fans and just darn good people to be around.

 

My last point is this. There might be 25 million bass fishermen out there -- not all are members of B.A.S.S. -- but we still have the responsibility to speak up when something happens that’s unfair to any of these 25 million.

 

OK, here comes the statement that will surely get me sent to prison. (Not really).

 

All the people I have just mentioned, professional anglers, weekend anglers, conservation folks, and the B.A.S.S organization plus the tourism people in the state of Wisconsin, have been totally insulted by the Wisconsin Department of Natural Resources.

 

The B.A.S.S event that will happen this week out of Green Bay was our mystery event. It was to be something truly special because our anglers didn’t know where we were headed until the last few weeks before it kicked off.

 

On the day that the Green Bay mayor announced the location, the DNR hit B.A.S.S. with boundary lines for how far we can go from Green Bay that were absolutely silly. Although they will attempt to give good reasons for their boundaries, they are still insulting

 

Folks get out your map, and take a look at how large Lake Michigan is and then realize our Elite anglers have been put in a little bitty box. We have been told that transporting bass over 25 miles in a boat livewell will kill fish. Well, we have to be dealing with people who have not paid attention to the bass fishing world. The modern day boat livewell is unbelievable when it comes to fish care, and the anglers themselves, well, there is no one on earth who takes better care of fish than an Elite angler.

 

They had more reasons for the “Boundary Box,” but let’s not get into them because they are all alike. They are insulting. We didn’t fight them hard at the time because I was afraid we would get in even more trouble. But now I am thinking what difference does it make.

 

We just got finished spending the week in La Crosse, Wis., where the crowds were off the charts, fishing was top notch, and the people were the best. It had to rank in the top two or three Bassmaster events I’ve ever been to.

 

Now we are just down the road at Green Bay, which has access to possibly the best smallmouth bass fishing in the world.

 

But we are not allowed to fish all of it. We’ve been excluded from maybe the best parts, which will stop us from really showcasing what Green Bay has to offer to bass fishing. At a time when every state needs every tourist dollar it can get, I’m bewildered by this “Boundary Box.”

 

I hope that when the fish weigh-in starts we blow the doors off this area with great catches, in spite of being regulated. The people of Wisconsin deserve that exposure.

 

I also hope someone from the DNR reaches out and says they’re sorry for making the bass fishermen feel so unwanted, and next time let’s work together.

 

My response to that would be, “I am sorry, too, and yes, let’s start working together.”

 

'Til then, the “Boundary Box” stinks.

 

 

 



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Maybe they should have come to Escanaba...we would have welcomed them with open arms and they would have experienced some of the best bass fishing they've ever seen!!!  Our small fishing  communities could really use some positive national exposure right now too.



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If I understand correctly. The launch site of the tournament is at the mouth of Green Bay. Thats why u see the cut off where it is. They are launching at the mouth of Green Bay. Chances are Bass guys would have never made it to Big Bay. Thats about 140+ miles just to get there. You really think bass caught in Big bay are going to make it back from the mouth of Green Bay anytime soon? Besides I am sure the amount of fish caught in Big Bay would not be that many. How many boats are really going to make that run. So I guess the impact of the fish be remove from that area isn't that big of deal.

I think they are more upset they can't fish more area in Door County area. 

Anyway about the D.N.R and annoucement.

1. B.a.s.s hadn't decided on the secret lake until a few days before they choose it.? My understanding was they were not sure which of a few final lakes would be the final choice. Once the choice was made then D.N.R had to look at the current weather and whatever other factors play into the choice they make on boundary.

2. Its going to reach 100 degrees today. Thats not good for the fish.

3. Why choose mouth of Green Bay for take off. Why not somewhere in the middle or like Ken said Escanaba. 

Boundaries are unfair but at the same time we don't know all the facts that go into decison.

One thing is for sure. This year from lower Lake Michigan to Little Bay De Noc. The seasonal fishing patterns are very different then in the past. Because of the unusal spring weather we had. And now possible high temps in June. I wonder what the temps are going to be in late July and August when thats our normal hot weather time

 

Go Pack Go!!

P.S I think another Lion player just got busted DWI.  

 



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Ken....That just leaves more fish for us Yoopers to catch.

And for the Pack............YUCK

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Hi Guys,

While I really don't understand why they've enacted such limitations, there's some pretty interesting underlying implications. Like KVD said, there's bound to be some world class fish caught during this tourney. Is that a bad thing? It depends on who's looking at it.

In the short term, the Green Bay, WI area stands to gain. More fish being caught in WI waters means more bragging rights/promotion for the area. The line is basically Oconto to Sturgeon Bay. This means there's not going to be a fish from Cedar River, Menominee, etc. (Michigan waters) being weighed in. Is it a long run to there? Of course. Is it improbable, you bet. Could it happen? Oh yeah.

In the long term, (here's your chance to cheer, Ken) Escanaba/the bays could be the real winners. Check out the story from ABC2 (WBAY) in Green Bay... basically gives indication Green Bay, WI may not be in the books for 2013. You know the pros want to fish Lake Michigan waters, and you know they know it makes for some great fishing. To think they're not going to push for it (and with the supposed turnout in La Crosse, WI to boot) is non-sensical.

Long and short of this is that we weren't going to see a tournament in Green Bay, WI AND one in Esky. While I know some using this board may be against tourneys on the bays, it's hard to argue that the boost in the economy (both from the tournament and the subsequent publicity) would be a bad thing for the area. Guess this is the glass-half-full look at the situation.



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